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  1. cam off topic

    Gracias, Mister.

    Long gone were the days when simply hearing “Real Madrid” would unleash
    fear within any rival. Long gone were the days where Real Madrid and
    Champions League were a synonym of success. Long gone was the king of
    Spain that no rival stood a chance to. Long gone were those days when
    those 31 Ligas, 17 Copas del Rey, 9 Champions League and 8 Supercopas
    meant something, or anything.

    Jose Mourinho arrived in Real
    Madrid a magical May 31st of 2010. He became Real Madrid’s 11th coach in
    7 years and picked up a team full of knew faces who maybe one or two
    teammates. A team in which not one member knew what it was like to get
    the Copa del Rey from King Juan Carlos and celebrate. A team where only
    Iker knew what it was like to win a Champions League with the white
    jersey. Heck, only Iker knew what it was like to get past quarterfinals
    in Champions League with Real Madrid!!!!

    Real Madrid 2003-4:
    4th place in Liga. Finalist in Copa. Left Champions League in the first
    knock out stage after losing to Monaco due to the away goal rule.

    Real Madrid 2004-5: 2nd place in Liga. Out in the round of 16 in Copa
    after failing to score more than one goal on humble Valladolid. Out in
    Round of 16 in Champions after losing to Juventus 1-2.

    Real
    Madrid 2005-6: 2nd in Liga. Semifinalist in Copa after losing to
    Zaragoza 5-6. Out in Champions in Round of 16 again after losing 0-1 to
    Arsenal.

    Real Madrid 2006-7: La Liga champions. Out in Round of
    16 of Champions after losing due to away goals to Bayern. Out in Round
    of 16 in Copa after losing to Real Betis.

    Real Madrid 2007-8:
    La Liga champions. Out in the first knock out round of Champions after
    losing 2-4 to Roma. Out in Copa in Round of 16 after losing 2-3 to
    Mallorca.

    Real Madrid 2008-9: Second in Liga. Out in Champions
    after losing 0-5 to Liverpool in the round of 16. Out in round of 32
    after losing to Real Union (who?)

    Real Madrid 2009-10: Second
    place in Liga. Out in Champions after losing 1-2 to Lyon in
    quarterfinals, shocker. Out in Copa del Rey after losing 4-1 to
    Alcorcon. Pepe, Raul, Higuain, Albiol, Arbeloa, Van Nistelrooy, Kaka,
    Guti, Benzema, Granero, Van der vaart and Marcelo were only able to
    score 1 goal on Alcorcon in 180 minutes. No me jodas.

    This is
    the Real Madrid that Mourinho picked up. No longer head of Champions
    League group. No longer a threat. Humiliated by a team not in Segunda,
    but in Segunda B, despite the stars. People say that Mourinho had more
    money than the rest. I beg to differ. Throughout this mess, Zinedine
    Zidane, Raul, Roberto Carlos, Figo, Casillas, Michael Owen, Kaka,
    Cristiano Ronaldo, Michel Salgado, Sergio Ramos, Robinho, Baptista,
    Cassano, Robben, Sneijder, Marcelo, Cannavaro, Van Nistelrooy, Reyes,
    Saviola, Metzelder, Huntelaar, Van der Vaart. Higuain, Xabi Alonso,
    Sergio Ramos and Karim Benzema were part of these squads. Are these
    players not enough to get past quarter finals of Champions?

    José Mourinho did what it felt like was impossible for Real Madrid. He
    got through that round of 16 in Champions in his three years as a
    manager. Real Madrid began to be a threat again. Real Madrid gained back
    the honor of being the head of group stage in the competition. Three
    years leaving the Champions with our heads up. Three years of being
    proud of our colours. Three years of REALLY BELIEVING once again, in La
    Décima. Three years of waking up knowing that we will not get kicked out
    without putting up a fight.

    José Mourinho fought for Copa del
    Rey and gave it as much importance as La Liga. That is why, Iker
    Casillas, despite the many many many years he already had with the
    institution FINALLY received the medal he never had. Winning the final
    against no less than the “BEST Barcelona in history”. Against the team
    that was unbeatable. Against the team that had stolen our status in
    Europe. Against the team that we wanted down. NOT ONE, humiliating exit.
    NOT ONE joke of a game. NOT ONE disaster.

    José Mourinho wrote
    his name all over the history of La Liga. All over, Xavi, ALL. OVER. The
    best La Liga title ever seen. 100 points. 121 goals for. 51 more goals
    than we scored in 2005 and 2006, 49 more than in 2004, 55 more than in
    2007…. and I could keep on going. Evidently the most wins any team has
    ever recorded in La Liga. The most wins at away. the most points away,
    the most goals away. The best goal difference in a Liga +89. The first
    team to score more than 110 goals in one season. Simply the best squad
    to have ever played in La Liga.

    In three years Mourinho had as many of the three major titles as all the other coaches in seven years.

    José Mourinho arrived in Madrid with a smile which was demonized by the
    media and believed by the weak. He was demonized without a reason. From
    day 1, he was stalked non stop. He was called satan, Hitler and he was
    compared to many other monsters in history without a real reason but
    because of the jealousy that the tag of being Special gets attached to.
    He put up a fight. FOR THE FIRST TIME, Jose Mourinho made us open our
    eyes. Not just ours but also the institutions’. Mourinho made the club
    take action upon all these so called journalists who were staining his
    name. That guy that called Mourinho a “Portuguese Nazi” on air? Yap,
    paying a 6 000 Euro fine right now. Oh, I forgot. He was hated for being
    PORTUGUESE. Something never seen before. Mourinho would drop off his
    kid at football practice and there would be “”””journalists”””” waiting
    for him, to see what he did and what he didn’t do. The hate transmitted
    from these men towards Mourinho was such that it lead to a group of
    PARENTS to stand behind his son’s goal and swear at the 12 year old.
    What on earth does a 12 year have to do with his father?! When have you
    ever seen such treatment to a coach?! What was his sin? Why did they
    lose their minds?!

    The truth, is ugly. Everyone claims to want
    the truth yet no one can handle it. Ask Cristiano, if people could
    handle the truth he would have a lot more gold in his trophy cabinet.

    Mourinho is more than just a statue. He is a man. A father, a husband.
    Big part of his departure has to do with his wife. She couldn’t handle
    the living hell they have made their lives in Madrid. After failing to
    attack him the journalists got involved with his family. Any father’s
    Achilles heel. Don’t believe any other story.

    You know what else Mourinho brought back to Madrid? Canteranos.

    Somehow the media led people to believe that in some previous imaginary
    parallel universe, Real Madrid played with an XI full of canteranos.
    Never happened, probably never will. Look at the last 3 European
    Championships won. 1998: Sanchis, Raul, Cañizares, Sanz and Jaime were
    canteranos part of the squad (Morientes arrived at age 21). 2000:
    Casillas, Raul & Sanchis. 2002: Raul, Casillas, Pavon & Guti.

    Jose Mourinho made more canteranos debut than any coaches in the past
    years. Nacho and Morata got continuity. Jose Rodriguez became the
    youngest player in Real Madrid’s history to debut in all three
    tournaments. It doesn’t even end there, look at Mourinho’s signings:
    Callejon and Diego Lopez. Current canteranos in Real Madrid who play or
    have played a decent amount of hours this season: Adan, Casillas, Diego
    Lopez, Callejon, Arbeloa, Morata, Nacho. That’s seven. Not to mention
    the work he is doing with Jose Rodriguez and Diego Llorente. Well was,
    because he won’t be there anymore.

    It is too easy to sit back
    and read what the press wants to feed you and not critically think about
    it. It is harder to sit back for a few hours and put together a piece
    that will tell you why we are making yet another managerial mistake.

    Mourinho has taught me to be honest no matter what and to never stop
    believing. To stay true to yourself and to not be out there to please
    people, but to look for the best for your party. How many other coaches
    would have benched Casillas to play Diego Lopez even despite all the
    hell that broke on h]im for that decision? Now I am sure Diego will look
    for another team to save but I thank him too for allowing us to believe
    in La Decima this year and I am glad to have seen him fulfill his
    dreams under the three posts of Real Madrid, screaming every goal like
    if it was the last and suffering after conceding every single one, like
    if it meant the game.

    I will miss the remountadas and those
    amazing speedy come backs that made Real Madrid return to the cover of
    all newspapers. I thank him for the 9 months that have passed without
    losing to Barcelona. I thank him for putting us back up again. I hope
    one day, I can meet him and shake his hand and thank him for everything
    he did because I am sure he has no idea the magnitude of his actions. I
    just hope that now, whoever takes over, continues this amazing project
    that has us all believing… that has us so fucking close, to La Decima.

    May the future bring you nothing but happiness in your new home and
    peace to your family. You will be forever in my heart, Jose Mourinho.”

  2. pai daca data venirii unui antrenor care a luat o cupa si un campionat in 3 ani (supercupa mi se pare neglijabila) e una magica, inseamna ca pretentiile nu mai sunt deloc sus la Real, ci dimpotriva. e adevarat si ce se spune despre trecutul apropiat (acei 7 ani anteriori), dar se uita ceilalti ani de dinainte. altfel, spus, daca venirea lui Mourinho a fost magica, ce epitet mai folosim la del bosque, de exemplu?

    nu are rost sa comentez restul articolului, unel lucruri sunt adevarate, unele nu.

  3. Având în vedere trecutul apropiat, pretenţiile vis-a-vis de Real au fost mult prea mari, din punctul meu de vedere. Clubul ăsta avea cel mai prost management din fotbalul mondial, considerând sumele investite. Mourinho i-a redat decenţa în rezultate şi perspectiva, fără a face exces în investiţii. A preluat un lot foarte bun, într-adevăr, dar toţi cei şapte antrenori dinaintea sa au preluat loturi cel puţin la fel de bune. A preluat, în schimb, şi greaua moştenire lăsată de palmaresul ruşinos al anilor trecuţi. A preluat şi circul mediatic în care s-a scăldat întotdeauna Real Madrid. A preluat şi vocile din vestiar.

    Mi se pare un pic contradictoriu să te întrebi retoric „oare de ce Mourinho nu stă mai mult de doi-trei ani pe nicăieri?!” şi, în acelaşi timp, să îl acuzi că n-a făcut miracole în trei ani de zile. Sunt standarde diferite referitoare la timp.

    Textul postat de Adi e un pic exagerat pentru că are o doză de subiectivism. Exclude părerile autorului şi citeşte doar datele. Acolo nu e loc de exagerări.

    Alternativa: http://www.sbnation.com/soccer/2013/5/21/4351476/real-madrid-dont-deserve-jose-mourinho

  4. eu nu l-am acuzat de lipsa de miracole – unde am scris eu asa ceva????

  5. si inca ceva apropo de articolul citat de tine: mi se pare curios sa STII ca scoaterea lui casillas a fost o manevra utila avand in vedere ca e vorba de, daca nu cel mai bun, oricum unul din primii 3 portari din lume ca valoare din ultimii 10 ani. adica lopez, un portar peste medie de altfel, nimic de zis, a fost atat de bun incat nici macar unul din marii portari ai ultimului deceniu nu ar fi putut sa il egaleze in prestatii. come on! atentie: nu ar fi putut, adica era imposibil. game over for me

  6. Deşi am văzut că acţionarii sunt şi din alte ţări, cred că numai cei din Anglia ştiu cu adevărat ce înseamnă să îţi susţii echipa favorită, locală în general. Oare cum ar suna ca un suporter din România să spună că nu vrea să vadă o altă echipă dispărând? Ştiu, sună al naibii de utopic pentru că dacă citiţi comentariile de la articolele despre Rapid şi, mai nou, cu problemele de la Steaua, unii ar prefera ca anumite cluburi să dispară, ceea ce e al naibii de trist.

  7. Serios vorbind si mie mi-ar place ca Steaua, Dinamo si in general cluburile aduse de rusi in 45 sa dispara, insa ce ar mai ramane dupa? Pacat de Rapid, mai ales ca n-avem asa o traditie in fotbal, cate cluburi mai sunt inca in activitate in Romania si care sa fi existat inainte de al doilea razboi mondial? Stiu de Ceahlaul, Sportul Studentesc si Rapid. Am tinut cu Steaua pe vremea comunismului ptr. ca habar n-aveam de istorie, de Rapid a inceput sa-mi placa dupa ce am citit din intamplare Glasul rotilor de tren. Unul din singurele cluburi din Romania ce se apropie de acceptiunea cluburilor comunitatilor din Anglia, cu un ‘catchment area’ distinct ramas neschimbat de la infiintare, lucru rar in fotbalul romanesc. In aceeasi nota, pacat si de RC Grivita Rosie, la rugby, eu daca as fi patronul vreunei echipe de fotbal infiintate in ’75 sau in anii ’90, mai degraba as da bani ptr. a readuce gloria la Grivita la rugby ptr. probabil un sfert din banii investiti intr-un sport in care n-am avut niciodata mare talent.

  8. Nimic de acest geniu pe nume Pulis, care a revolutionat fotbalul britanic?:) aud ca vasta sa experienta in domeniu va fi folosita de The Lions in turneul din Australia in vara, are un job deja asigurat la pregatirea ptr. repunerile din tusa:)

  9. Triumphant weekend in Londra, apropo. East Midlands derby la Rubgy Union in finala Aviva Premiership pe Twickenham, Froch v Kessler la O2 Arena, Watford v Palace luni pe Wembley cu penalty ratat in minutul 93 urmat de un contraatac devastator:) Oh, mai era un meci parca sambata seara dar nu mai imi aduc aminte cine joaca:).

  10. nu am timp sa raspund mereu..da’ asta cu sondajul ti-am mai spus si inainte.

    si tu poti sa votezi acolo,asta nu inseamna ca esti fan real!

    cat despre toata harababura asta,mi-as dori sa am la dispozitie ceva mai mult timp pentru a-mi putea expune si eu punctul de vedere.
    citisem ca ai scris la un alt post de-al meu ca eu l-as iubi pe mourinho si sunt orbit de asta in disputa lui cu iker…e o aberatie..insa,e tare cum tu spui ca nu vrei ca cineva sa puna o eticheta asupra ta,pe cand tu etichetezi pe oricine si oricum!

  11. iker,in sezonul asta,a mancat multe meciuri ale realului,plus accidentarea,plus actele de indisciplina(sufla vorbe din vestiar in presa si isi intoarce coechipierii impotriva antrenorului)..chiar nu as intelege de ce l-ar scoate pe diego din poarta..atata timp cat nu la el e buba in echipa..

  12. deci inseamna ca esti de acord ca real e o echipa cu asteptari mici, nu? sau ale tale sunt mici (data fiind publicarea unui asemenea articol exagerat care ridica in slavi un parcurs modest acum 10 ani)?

  13. problema era ca acel autor era convins ca ce a facut lopez nu putea fi facut si de casillas. nu prea inteleg cum poti fi sigur de asta dat fiind ca e o discutie pur teoretica. nu poti sti cum ar fi aparat casillas. poate a aparat mai slab in toamna, dar cum sa fii sigur ca nu s-ar indrepta?? sa nu uitam ca e unul din cei mai buni portari din lume sau chiar cel mai bun dupa destule opinii

  14. nu,eu am asteptarile mele..e normal sa-mi doresc mai mult si de fiecare data,OBSESIA(pentru ca a devenit o obsesie) celor de la real e sa castige “la decima”.nu sunt de acord 100% cu articolul..eu nu-l ridic in slavi pe portughez,insa,nici nu-l omor ca fiind vezi-doamne un nimic in antrenorat sau un esec lamentabil.sunt ferm convins ca nici el nu e multumit de ceea ce a realizat la real,insa,eu sunt multumit de faptul ca realul a revenit in elita fotbalului mondial,pentru ca inainte,de cand a plecat del bosque pana sa vina mourinho,realul nu a trait decat prin nume,mai putin prin fotbalul practicat1

  15. iker a picat la un alt capitol,nu la cel cu aptitudini.el a fost literalmente praf la capitolul atitudine..mai ales ca el este si in postura de capitan la real madrid!!!acolo a gresit el,nu pentru felul in care apara.

  16. tu esti fan real, eu sunt un simplu spectator al celor ce se intampla acolo, dar opiniile tale sunt prea categorice pentru un conflict (dat fiind ca lucrurile nu sunt niciodata albe si negre in conflicte, de orice fel ar fi acestea, ci doar gri – diferite nuante). altfel, in afara opiniei tale, exista si alte opinii chiar intre madridisti, nu tocmai favorabile lui mourinho, ci lui casillas. adevarul e cel mai probabil la mijloc.

  17. Drept e ca Rapidul nu putea nimeri mai prost: adica sa il ai patron pe primul UTeCist al tarii. Si sa te mai duca si la faliment. Asta de ironie a sortii! :))

  18. nu am spus ca mourinho nu are nici o parte din vina….se tot
    vehicula ca mourinho s-a inteles cu chelsea,insa di mateo a castigat
    ucl,asta insemnand o prelungire a contractului.mourinho a ramas,iar
    iker,in loc sa-si vada de echipa si de joc si sa aibe o atitudine
    adecvata,s-a apucat sa dea informatii prin presa despre ceea ce se
    intampla in vestiarul realului!!!

    vinovati se pot gasi peste
    tot.pentru mine,iker e vinovatul principal,in primul rand,datorita
    atitudinii lui.nu e prima oara insa cand jucatorii realului schimba
    antrenorii…

    la fel au facut si hiero si seedorf si altii cu alti antrenori in trecut..

    problema
    e ca,in sfarsit venise cineva care sa ne scoata din anonimatul in care
    intraseram,insa,jucatorilor nu le-a placut foarte mult faptul ca
    trebuiau sa mai castige si trofee!